Save Indian Sanity – III

The defending “grown-up” kids

From: Bharati Deshpande
To: Jaya Jha
Date: Feb 11, 2006 3:48 PM

Jaya ji
to me who passed out in 1992 all those who passed out after that will be freshies . However old you may grow even i you grow up to 70 you will still be a freshy to us.

I don’t know what you hurts you to being considered freshy or rourkee being ranked lower then iit-Mumbai.

I can however see that you are unable to argue on issues when confronted with knowledgable persons who have personal experience of what the meaning of the words are of 498a or what it is the actual meaning of “innocent have to prove innocence” not “prosecution has to prove guilt ” .

People who are deaf can be woken through loud noise. but people who are preteding to be deaf cannot be.

If you do not understand the dowry law issue and just want to have some oinion on dowry stay away from bloggin on it it because people have full right to argue with you . comment on some other people on the blog if you want

Blog is not a private place but very soap box and opinion exchange place where in people can argue . You do not want to arguement on a topic do not blog on that topic.

I call you ji hope hat is respectfull enough for you

–If I have brains enough to understand it correctly, it is an explanation for the following comment on my blog (which I mentioned in my last post) :))

If they keep entertaining me, I will keep doing that for you, dear readers :))

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Jaya Jha is an entrepreneur, a techie, a writer and a poet. She was born and brought up in various towns of Bihar and Jharkhand. A graduate of IIT Kanpur and IIM Lucknow, she realized early on that the corporate world was not her cup of tea. In 2008, she started Pothi.com, one of the first print-on-demand publishing platform in India. She currently lives in Bangalore and divides her time between writing and working on her company's latest product InstaScribe (http://instascribe.com) with a vision to make it the best e-book creation tool. Blog: https://jayajha.wordpress.com Twitter: @jayajha Facebook: http://facebook.com/MovingOnTheBook

8 thoughts on “Save Indian Sanity – III

  1. Blog is not a private place but very soap box and opinion exchange place where in people can argue .

    *amused*

    Well, the full control of a person’s blog is in his/her hands and you need to respect that person’s guidelines regarding what should and what should not be posted as comments. It is NOT a public shoutbox unless the owner of the blog wishes it to be so.

    Speaking for myself, I certainly do not want my blog to turn into a Vidhan Sabha. So, Ms. Bharti, stay away from my blog.

  2. Hey Apurva,

    Do not preach.

    Did Jaya follow the guidelines for comments in our blogs ?

    We located her blog by tracing her comment. Now, whatever she has done in our blogs, we are doing the same at her blogs.

    Cool. Is not it ?

    We also requested FEMINAZIES to leave us and our old/sick parents alone. FEMINAZIES have SPAMMED/RUINED lives of thousands of INNOCENT old and sick elders.

    Today, they say collateral damage under Section 498a is OK.
    But, when it is collateral damage elsewhere, then FEMINAZIES would be the first to protest.

  3. Dear Sister JAYA,
    Here are straight cut answers to your above blog.

    Indian women are getting educated and getting fast in these decades, whereas Indian men have been already by more than 3 decades.

    It is something like “bomb in monkey’s hands”. That’s what happenning all over urban Indian marriages. For eg: you mention that

    why relationship of sassuraal & saas?
    why bahu has to adjust to all such new environment of Hubby family?
    why women has to come to husband family and why not?

    I question you –don’t you feel these questions slowly moving you into western culture. It’s not you, It is your education which made you as such. We are highly educated as you are ..but only void is “Social engineering and INDIAN CULTURAL SENSE”.

    Some educated Indian women are becoming BRATS…are not recognizing the value of culture in India. which is resulting in divorce. Many women became arrogant. They are not even trying to handle the situations with their husband and new environment adjustment cooly, but using their whole intelligence in changing the husband and/or keeping husband far away from his parents.

    that’s ok. For a while let us take this culture out and then logically think as per your education.

    Why a women have to be fed till her death after marriage in India? Do you really believe, in this polluted environment, husband got to go to work for several miles through some means…hook or crook and feed the family till he dies…

    Do you really think that a so-called modern educated women, who is filing this 498a (bloody law) is doing what normal women does at home(who do not even know about 498a, like my cousin sisters).

    I question, do you really try to putting in your effort of educational intelligence in solving environment adjustment problems in first few yrs. of marriage? you blog appears, you use your all senses to prepare for nuclear family.

    Neither you work or look after well at home and watching ch-7 songs all over the day and attack the husband when he comes home. what happens? happens is the one in current India. 56% divorces in the last 5yrs of urban marriages , many thousands and thousands of children living with single parent like west.

    Can India afford this single parenting and divorces due to this poverty and economy? like west. NO. we are not.

    Fight on 498a is purely related to MODERN WORLD AND MODERN WOMEN.
    Poor and normal women never involves in 498a, as she doesn’t know about it.

    Many educted women been thru 498a about few yrs back. ask them their situation and how they live now.

    They have much money with them. BUT NO CARE TAKER. same with thier husbands too. Who is benefitting from the whole chapters….DISHONEST AND CORRUPT. Is that what we want INDIA TO BE? think about it. We don’t need to make India to get to another 67% poverty (meaning having one meal in one day)..which you and me eat to the throat.

    help india and push poeple like INFOSYS chiefs in ruling the country and remove this scoundrel psuedo-politicians from governing further. In all senses, this is a fight among GOOD and EVIL.

  4. Mr. sridharan, I am wondering where you were educated.
    You said that only educated modern women indulge in misusing such laws against their ‘pujya patis’ (sarcasm). You have no right to talk of all educated women as those who misuse laws. i feel you should be sent back to some good school to get the basics right.

    “Why a women have to be fed till her death after marriage in India? Do you really believe, in this polluted environment, husband got to go to work for several miles through some means…hook or crook and feed the family till he dies…”

    You say modern women and how can you expect modern women to be so depending on their husbands? Women these days don’t like sitting at home and eating on what their husbands bring. They like being financially independent.

    “I question you –don’t you feel these questions slowly moving you into western culture. It’s not you, It is your education which made you as such. We are highly educated as you are ..but only void is “Social engineering and INDIAN CULTURAL SENSE”.
    Some educated Indian women are becoming BRATS…are not recognizing the value of culture in India. which is resulting in divorce. Many women became arrogant.”

    And, what culture are you talking about. The age-old ancient culture that you are talking about,wherein the woman has to adjust to her in-laws comfort and where the woman has to follow patriarchy and all that nonsense must have been created by some male like you all who want women to listen to them. Now everything has changed. Women have started realizing their worth and I am glad there are few men who appreciate them for this.

    It’s better women recognise their worth rather than the age-old customs that tie them within restrictions. Divorces don’t increase just because of women not realizing the value of culture. Couples get divorced if they can’t get along properly. Men have always been arrogant. Good to hear that women have also started being so! Some men try to mask their love for patriarchy with things like love for culture and all.

    If country develops, technology develops, views develop and if men like catching up with fast life, then women have every right to develop and change. After all as you said, this is Modern India and so Indian women ought to be modern and educated.

  5. Whoa! It takes some time to register all the non-sense that is blurted out. How many comments had I posted on your blogs Mr. Sumanth?? One or was is an awesome number of two??!! That too, not out of blue. The vulgar comments of your group members on my blog had taken me there. Btw, when was it? Remember you had stooped down low enough with your comments in my blog even after that comment. Still I never went back to defend them. Why did you have to come back again? But I must appreciate the generosity you have. You give back amply. I understand that you can give only what you have, right? All the nonsense in world. That too toally, irrelevant. I had to clarify it because you tried to make an attack on another commenter and not just me.

    Apurva & Bhargavi: Thanks a lot for your sensible comments. But let these people rant and get tired by themselves. There is only that much one can do with blockheads. Nobody has to prove how childish they are being. They make it a bit too apparent, don’t they?🙂

  6. Bhargavi,

    Bravo…. You said,”Men have always been arrogant.”

    So, it includes your father, brothers, grandfathers, husband(now or in future) and may be sons and grandsons……

    When women(like you) make chauvinistic statements like the above calling all men as arrogant or all men as terrorists (as Karnataka State Women’s Commission Chairperson did), fools like Apurva will suck up to that.

    If a man hates himself and masculinity, he is readily accepted and may be even rewarded by various ways by women.

    Kaikeyi and manthara tortured her husband and yet all his sons just watched. Santanu’s wife killed 11 of his children in front of him and yet, he remained silent.

    Still, men are considered arrogant. It has been a fashion by FEMINAZIES and Media to denigrate every man as rapist, as arrogant, as a pervert.

    Now, you know why we we are here very well.

    We do not tolerate Male-Bashing. We will do Female Bashing the extremists like you understand the basics.

    By the way Gender Equality also means:

    Female Bashing =(should be equal to) Male Bashing

    So, for your statement:

    “Men have always been Arrogant”.

    can be replied with: “Women have always been treacherous.”

    That way we will establish some equity. Do you like it ?

    Please understand, in Gender Equity framework, women bashing will be equal to male bashing. Do not waste time and get used to it……

  7. Jaya,

    Please understand that our operational model is highly sustainable.

    It has got a fault tolerant model based on “Systems Thinking”.

    Do not think that only blood sucking feminists have got guts to shout in the middle of the streets. We are doing the same thing that feminists have done before. So, enjoy the fun.

    If educated/working women are so independent, why the hell they are claiming alimony like a bunch of prostitues ? In marriage, if there are differences, then they can tell each other goodbye and go their own way…. Why there is a need for alimony ?

    and How many women marry down ? Will an IIT/IIM female marry a guy who has done Diploma and get a salary of Rs.15,000/- per month ? When men can marry down, what stops from so called independent women to marry down ?

    So, now its evident that both men and women need to grow up to the changing times and its not just for men.

  8. Okay – enough kids. अब weekend खतम हो गया है। खेलना-कूदना बंद। सभ्य भारतीय बच्चों की तरह घर जा कर पढ़ाई-लिखाई करो। मेरा mailbox अब तुम्हारे comments से खेल खेल कर थक गया है। जाओ, जा कर उपने blog में जो post करना हो करो। है ना? cho chweet – जाओ, जाओ।

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