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IITK – Two concerns

Posted by Jaya on August 24, 2009

There are two things about IITK which keep cropping up every once in a while and I had been meaning to write something about them for a long time. First one is the issue of frequent suicide[attempts] by the students and the second one is the whole male-female interaction issues in the campus. First one gets a lot of media and alumni attention. The second one keeps circulating between the students and a select few alumni who, in their student days at the institute, were active on this issue.

Let’s take up the controversial matter of suicide first. Every time a suicide happens, there is a quick media coverage and there is an uproar on all the alumni groups worldwide as soon as one of these news items get forwarded. Why does institute not do something? For how long will it continue and the institute will be a silent spectator?

Let me be candid here. We are being harsh towards institute here and are overlooking the real reason which leads a young student, full of potential, to the desperate step of taking away his life.

The first thing to realize is that its not just IITs. Let’s think of the 10th and 12th standard exam results. Every year just after the results are announced, the number of suicides by disappointed students easily goes in double digit immediately. Probably many, many more do not come in media limelight. And wait! According to this report [PDF file, opens in new window] by National Crimes Records Bureau, in years 2005, 2006 and 2007, a total of 2283, 2378 and 1976 suicides respectively were done due to failure in examinations! Only the reported, official numbers. Actual could be much higher. Why? Yes, there are flaws in our education system at every level. There are a thousand things that need to be fixed. But you know what? The basic reasons behind these suicides can not be fixed by correcting the education system. What will you do? There is a race for marks and every extra 1%. So? Change it to a grading system? There will still be the race to get that next higher grade. Change it to a pass/fail system. Those who fail will still commit suicide. Have no concept of fail or marks or grades? You just go through the education and that’s it? The higher education system and the economic system will have to find ways to decide who is fit to go where. That will still not be a perfect system and those who do not get into what society values will still commit suicide. We can improve our education system, but it will never be perfect. Do we even know what a perfect education system is? And even if at some point of time in future, we will be able to devise a system that is perfect, that will magically eliminate the tendency to commit suicide, we can not wait until then to save young lives.

The problem is not the education system really. It is the mindset of the society that does not accept failures and helps in rebounding, that does not give a healthy, optimistic outlook for future to young minds, that only gives them a do-or-die option for all these “important” examinations. The family being the biggest criminal of all.

“How can my son/daughter be such a failure?”

Grow up moms and dads. Your child is an individual. He has his own strengths and weaknesses. And excelling in the exams you deem important may not be his strength. Heck yes. He can even fail. Don’t bring him up with the fear that his life and future and career ends if he does not get through those examinations. Don’t link his examination performance to your and entire family’s respect or disgrace in the society. And no – he does not have to be like this uncle and that cousin to prove his worth in the family. Come on. Somebody’s child will be at 90%, somebody’s at 60% and somebody’s will fail! Any of these could be yours. There is nothing like “how can it be”. Just like it could have been your neighbour’s child, it can be your child. Let’s give lives second and third chances.

And when it comes to IITs and ‘premier institutes’ in India, we are face to face with even more difficult set of parents. They have basked in the reflected glory of their child making it to IIT. In some cases with never-before-rank in their family/neighbourhood. Oh! Aren’t they on cloud-9? They don’t want to come down. There can be no looking back.

Sorry, once again moms and dads. All those who were at 60% and those who failed have been left behind your child now. Everybody at IIT is a topper here and a stud there. There will be those at 90% and those at 60% and those who fail! Oops! IITs have a relative grading system to normalize performance. Some will be 10 pointers, some 8, some 5 point someone and some will get Fs. Yes – in some cases it is an eccentric professor who causes this ‘F’. But that’s not the case all the time and even when that is the case, your child and his life are more important than the eccentric professor and the imperfect system. Its not worthwhile for him to lose his life to correct an eccentric professor. One is corrected today, the other will be born tomorrow. In some cases, your child has been neglecting his studies. But its absolutely not such a big crime that she should not get another chance.

“How can it be my child?” Just the way it was your neighbour’s child who did not make it to IITs in flying colors. It was not an end for him. He did his B. Com and an MBA and is a successful professional now. Its not an end for your child either. There is always that second chance. Don’t bother about the uncles and aunts and grapndpas and the neighbour giving that revengeful smile! If you have boasted too much about your child in past, it has been a mistake. Don’t let your child pay for it. Forget about the others, who would laugh at you. Concentrate on your child.

You know what the problem is? The society does not accept looking back; it does not accept that the the most glorious path need not be one suitable for an individual; it does not accept that you may falter but come back. If it started doing that, the results could be amazing. I have witnessed some amazing cases of ‘recovery’ [in want of a better word] in hopeless cases. Students with ‘F’s lined up semester after semester – they get their acts together and pass out decently.

As far as the system is concerned, it offers flexibility like hardly any Indian systems do. You don’t have to repeat a full year, if you fail in one subject or two or three or even all but one. You repeat only those courses you have failed in. There is nothing like repeating the whole year. If theses have been elective courses, you can choose a different elective while repeating. There are systems of warnings and academic probation and other things. These give ample time to the student to get their act together. What happens in most such cases is that the student can hardly talk to anyone in the family. The institute does a lot to create a support system. There is a counseling service. Faculty members get directly involved in some cases. And as mentioned earlier, I have personally witnessed some hopeless looking cases ending amazingly well. Not just getting through the system, but actually doing well at the end.

Only if it worked for more people. Only if it wasn’t just the institute’s responsibility and parents cared enough about their children beyond thinking of them as a ‘glory’ tool. Only if all these people could actually talk to their parents without feeling guilty and get an acceptance of their situation. Only if parents were there to support more extreme steps when needed (like leaving IIT and find a more suitable career elsewhere- what can institute do if that is indeed the best option?).

There is a system of branch change at the end of first year. Earlier there was a high CPI limit to allow branch change. The idea was to give students doing well a chance to change their department. I remember that during our times a change was brought in to lower the CPI limit and allow a branch change at the end of second year too. So, if you feel you can’t handle your department and are not performing well, change it. Despite the political incorrectness of the idea that someone performing badly in one department should be accepted in another department, keeping in mind the practical situation of students (the branches closing at higher JEE ranks create more pressure than those closing at lower ones), the system did introduce the change. I don’t remember there were any takers. The only thing it did was that more people with lower CPI applied for branch change to a “better” branch. Who will go back and tell their moms and dads that I want to switch from Computer Science to Physics! Sigh… I don’t know if the system still exists despite having no takers.

Let’s face it. Blaming education system, and academic pressure, and institute is not just unfair, its pointless and even harmful. These young lives are important and its high time parents and society creating all the pressure on them face some tough questions and stop looking the other way. The solution to students committing suicides after 10th and 12th board examination results can not be to allow them to cheat in the exams, can it be?

And now the less life threatening issue of Male-Female interaction on the campus. IIT Kanpur has historically been ahead of its time and society in dealing with this issue. Although I can see some “how-can-this-be-allowed” faces around, initially there were no restrictions on male and female students visiting the hostels of opposite sex at any point of time. It worked. Those used to a typical girls hostel should not think that girls lived in a constant terror of their privacy being violated. Just like you live at your home, you lived in the hostel – used to seeing male visitors around. At some point of time, after some untoward incident or something, a restriction was imposed between 12 midnight and 6 am on the entry of the ‘person of opposite sex’ (to quote the official documents). Practically, that too was only for the girls’ hostel and not for the boys’ hostels. That was still the practice when we had entered the institute. And then, after 40 or so years of the institute’s existence, after the world has come into 21st century, there came people in the administration who started seeing problems. At one point of time it seemed like even twin tower crashing would somehow be related to boys being allowed in girls’ hostel at IIT Kanpur! It has been downward hill since then. We had resisted then and it at least halted the idea of complete ban… But the slow damage continues to happen. I-card showing and signing in and having an escort and what not. In the name of security, a lot of restrictions are in place now.

The problem is that most of the society will not see what is wrong with this. The parents of new students will not see what is wrong with this. They are used to jail-like girls’ hostels and that’s what their notion of keeping their girls safe is. When we had entered IIT Kanpur, parents had questions about the ’strange’ arrangement. The wardens and senior students had made them understand. The institute was leading the rest of the society. The society will not be able to lead the institute if it decides to go regressive. Which is what it has decided to do unfortunately.

Advantages of the open system? Purely from a girl’s point for view – you do not have boys putting sick bets for entering Girls’ Hostel. You don’t have an untoward curiosity about what the rooms of girls look like. It makes girls less of an exotic object, and more of a human for boys, who live like them only [although it is hampered a lot simply due to the male-female ratio in the campus, but it at least saves some lives!].

What do we worry about? Girls and boys having sex? Whether we should worry about that and to what extent can itself be a subject of debate. But even if we have to worry about it, is restricting entry into hostels a way of stopping it? You really believe it? What percentage of unmarried, young people do you think get into sexual acts in a hostel room? The percentage will be tiny. If this has to happen, it will happen. Restrictions or no restrictions on hostel can not do much to curb or encourage it.

Would somebody powerful enough in the administration get their head cleared about it and stop this irreversible damage? When I am stopped at the gate of each and every hostel on visiting the campus in the name of security, it stops looking like the campus I am so proud of! The sense of freedom I always felt there vanishes. Please don’t take away that wonderful experience from the new generation of students. What more can I say. I sort of feel hopeless about it now!

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The day at IITK

Posted by Jaya on March 27, 2008

After a long time there is a post categorized as “IITK” in this blog. And its a good feeling.

Thanks to Dr. Suchitra Mathur I had a bicycle to go around the campus. Not only was it convenient, but it also had great nostalgic value. I realized that I practically hadn’t ridden a bicycle after leaving IITK. For the first few minutes I felt like a novice. But soon, I was comfortable again. Went around to meet various faculty member, good old ShopC and both the Girls’ Hostels on that cycle. For a simple thing that it sounds, it was great fun. Cycling peacefully on IITK campus was one of my favourite time-passes here. Especially in the evening. When I was at Ranchi, often rushing to reach my lodge in time after an evening tuition, through Mecon and SAIL Colonies, I longed to cycle through those tree clad roads in the late evenings. I finally got to do that IITK. That simple act is filled with an enormously huge feeling of freedom…

The faculty members I met with were quite excited to hear about our company. Some interesting feedback came our way too. Am going to meet at least three more people tomorrow. And then hope to see even more on the stall. Let’s see how it goes.

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Feeling IITish & Blogging Information

Posted by Jaya on January 11, 2007

Thats how I describe the feeling these days. First PAN-IIT, then Priya’s and George’s visits (and revival of old jokes!) and meeting people from IIT out of suddent like meeting Prof. C. V. R. Murthy on Chennai airport…

The post had to be a big one. But it won’t be. Its a formal announcement that professional life is going to take its toll on my blogging frequency. I am not complaining. Hopefully, in some time I would learn to prioritize, focus and balance. Or it may get worse. I do not know. Another phase of life, another experience. As of now I am glad. Its different from how life has been earlier and I am happy about things I am doing.

Not to say that blog will be abandoned, but yeah – frequncy is definitely going to be less. Thoughts can not always be piled up. When they are not penned down in time, they often get lost. I regret this, but its okay.

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Reservation is your insult!!

Posted by Jaya on April 11, 2006

Posted a rather long comment on http://iitkaa.blogspot.com/2006/04/friends-there-is-likelihood-of-govt.html. It can very well make a post here. But since it was posted in context of the comments there, and I am not able to spend time on rewriting it, I’d request the readers to first go through the comments written there.

I do not know where all these statistics about so much of population coming from such and such caste is coming from!! I wish somebody would throw some light on that too, before making it a point of argument. Here is a much better researched piece which also brings out some of the questions that need to be answered before making these definitive statistics:

The 2001 census provides data by variables like age, sex, religion, marital status, educational status and disability. But as far as caste goes it only tracks SCs and STs.

From http://youthcurry.blogspot.com/2006/04/caste-vs-class.html

(I would request you to read the complete article to get the perspective.)

Next, even if all these population related data is true, by itself it does not justify the quota system… On what all bases shall we continue giving quotas? Why only caste, let there be gender (Even with a skewed sex ratio in the general population, we have a severe under representation of females in these institutes, don’t we?), region (Why should an IITK be full of UPites and Biharis and IITM of Tamils and Kannads? Why should there be so many from Andhra and Bengal in post graduate programmes?) etc. etc.

Yes, let’s have a nXn matrix of all the possible ways our population can be divided and then assign quotas. That’d be the only thing that’ll make sense in this straight “percentage of population” argument.

What I am doing here is not supporting any proposition of this kind, but simply trying to point out how ridiculous this argument in favour of reservation is.

Let us look at some of the other aspects now

  • The upliftment: Enough has been said about it. Yes, I belong to a place where I have seen that caste comes in the way of development of people. But you know at what level it is? It’s in the village schools, where the lower caste kids are treated so badly and ridiculed so much, that they drop out despite their unwillingness to do so. What good is a quota in IITs and IIMs to solve this uplifement problem?
  • Atrocities of Past: Fine, here I belong to a Brahmin Family. Long ago my ancestors may have been responsible for all kinds of atrocities on the lower caste. But how does it justify the situation today that a so called lower caste person, whose dad works in some really high position in a high profile government department in the capital city of India, who has a lot of clout due to his money and position be given preference over me even unless (s)he has a higher merit than me…
  • If you belong to one of these “disadvantaged” castes and are demanding reservation, I can only pity you for your attitude. You are coming and saying yourself that you are incapable of competing. This is ridiculous. I personally do not believe, and my experiences in life supports this belief, that people from any caste display a superior or inferior level of talent simply due to belonging to a class. But you yourself are trying to prove this to me… Look here, I am incapable… Wow!! That’s some self-respect I’d say. And yes – if today someone comes up with a scheme for reservation for girls for 50% (or let’s make it 47% in the ratio of population), I’d be the first one to object since I would consider it an insult. I need reservation only if I do not have personal merit.
The percentage of population argument is, thus, a total bullshit. The only argument that can ever favour a reservation is when the opportunities are not equal. And a reservation in IITs and IIMs based on caste just does not take the opportunities to those really in need. A 12th pass student from a village or a small town, who does not know how to prepare for JEE, is not even sure what it means or is not aware of even its existence is not going to benefit from this reservation. He/she can not afford the JEE coachings and tutions that their counterparts in bigger cities, with high earning parents can afford. And guess what, even if he/she is from a higher caste, it hardly helps the situation. He/she needs money!! So, the sons-and-daughters-of-the-well-to-do-downtrodden-families will get everything, leaving nothing for the real downtroddens, which may or may not belong to the “disadvantaged” caste.

So much for the argument side.

Problem is that all the intellectual, factual, reasonable justifications are not going to move our politicians. As somebody rightly pointed out, what incentives do they have to listen to this, when they are getting votes (we know enough; so we do not to talk of conscience)?

There are only two ways -

  1. Either you create an agitation which is as unreasonable as the motion itself, but this is a disruptive idea and may still not work, if politicians are sure that their vote bank stays.
  2. Or a more reasonable idea would be to mobilize precisely those who are the intended “beneficiaries” of this reservation and make them see the implied insult to their merit and abilities in this whole drama of reservation. Tougher, but in case we are able to do it, it might as well set a precedent for fighting the unreasonable precedents set by the politicians. Come on people; get rid of these pathetic vote-bank tricks. Do not let yourself be treated as numbers in their vote-banks. Be the individuals you are and say you can achieve it with your merit.

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IITK Alumni and Potentially of Other Institutes too – Beware of Fraud!!

Posted by Jaya on September 21, 2005

See this mail from Abhaya

Hi all,

This is really embarrassing but also important. There is this who called me up under the name Shyam Sunder, claiming to be a passout of 1996 batch. He said he has been working in Sydney Australia and has come down to India to interview with some company in Chennai. His wallet has been picked up and he needs some help to get back to Bombay.

I was a little suspicious in the beginning so I asked for some identity proof. His ICICI account showed the name Shyam Sunder. On google, I found out that there indeed was a alumni named Shyam Sunder in 1996 batch. The page which showed his name didn’t open (it timed out). So I fell for the bait and transferred money to the account. He promised to contact me back on reaching Bombay.

After I had made the transfer, I just out of curiosity again tried to load that page and lo ! Shyam Sunder from 1997 batch (MSc. Chem) actually died in 2002 from blood cancer !!. Details are on the 1996 webpage since he joined the institute along with them. Then I searched for that ICICI account number and found this:

http://m.1asphost.com/alumniuce/message.asp

This guy has been doing this for sometime now I guess. If only I would have searched for the account number first !! But please spread the info. Since he will definitely try to contact others also.

Is there some public place where this information can be posted so that it turns up quickly on google? I will put it up on my blog. Please do so on your blogs also. I am also going to file a complaint with ICICI Bank about the misusage of this account but I don’t think much can be done on that front.

This whole episode has been quite disheartening !

Regards,
abhaga

Hi all,

This reminds me that I forgot to mention the account number in the last mail. It is 004701530996, Koramangala Branch, ICICI. Please make this information as visible as possible.

About the phone number, I guess he may have similarly pleaded somebody that he has lost everything and needs to make some urgent calls and used the phone since I got the call from a Chennai local number: 91-44-52163430.

I talked with ICICI customer care. They have asked me to lodge a written complaint and said that bank will “follow up the case” which amounts to nothing I guess but I will file the complaint nonetheless. Cyber Crime Branch people want me to come down to the branch between 10:00 and 5:00 on weekdays to “discuss” the matter with them. I will see if I can manage that.

Regards,
abhaga

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Walls inside walls inside walls…

Posted by Jaya on August 15, 2005

Another trip to IITK… and the walls are more in number.

To start with IITK did not have a wall around the academic area. Why? Because Prof. Kelkar (the founder director) did not think that academic area and residential area for the students should be separated. It’s the same. Openness, freedom to just walk-in, no distinctions between places and areas and corners!

At some unfortunate point in the history, someone did not appreciate this subtle logic and erected a dreaded wall. This must be around 30 years back. We did not see it happening.

But the second phase of wall-erections – we have witnessed. Sometimes actual, sometimes virtual. Actual meaning physical walls around the hostels, buildings etc. Virtual meaning all the “Show I-card”, “Sign in before entering” etc. (security measured they are called in technically and politically correct language.)

I do not know how much the securtity needed improvement, nor do I know how much it has improved, but it is slowly killing that something which made IITK, IITK! And what is unfortunate is that the way the mis-fortune of the wall around the academic area was taken as granted by the later generations, even these changes are being taken as granted by the coming generations. It’s not their fault if they have not seen any better. Those, who have seens changes coming in, made attempts to stop them and yet with the perseverance and political wit of the other party have slowly seen their strength wane away, are wondering, either having come out of the place or by counting their last days there, as to what will the future be? If the world is progressing, we are moving back.

I feel sorry and sad…

More later…

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The Course Allocation…

Posted by Jaya on March 16, 2005

The course registration at IITK used to be different. Checking with the professors was the major part of work. Then, of course, time-table, whether the instructor is likely to change it should there be a clash, pre-requisites etc. etc. (I have not listed some of the unofficial considerations :-D )

Then came OARS (Online Academics Registration System), which was suposed to substitute this ‘running around’ by students to faculty. You could submit the request for courses online and the professor can accept or deny it. But it could not really do away with ‘running around’. “The best part of the teaching life is interacting with students. We want to see who is taking our course!” (Now, I am not sure how many students were aware of this; but this was indeed how many of the professors looked at the issue.) Yeah, if there is a rush, many of them would want to ensure that the student is really interested. And then students would also want to try to convince the professor that ‘they really want to do the course’! And there were so many other aspects to this that I can not describe them all. There was a personal touch to the process.

But then I am sure there were downsides. What if you want to do some courses for which there is a rush, but you are not a favourite with the professor? Things have to be left at the ‘whim’ of the professor then… However, I am not sure of how often that used to happen either. At least right now, I can not recall any desperate situation. Somehow, more or less, it would work out fine.

Electives for second year (first year has all compulsory courses) here, at IIML, are allocated by a Software. The rules are pre-coded. If you are concentrating in an area (taking a high number of course in that area) you are given preference. Next tie-breaker is how high you have ranked the course on your preference. And then comes your CGPA. I am sure, I can’t explain all the complications involved; I myself do not understand. :(

Here, time-table is not your headache, certainly. If you get a course, you need not miss it because it is clashing with something else you want to do. And also, you get rid of professor’s whims. Yeah, being a favourite with a professor would not help here… (There Priya accused me of doing minors under professors, rather then in courses!) But that gets replaced by speculations. Given the kind of rules, whether or not you get something also depends on what other people are taking! And yes – that’s what is happening. Midnight is the deadline for submitting your preferences and its the age of speculations here!! Yes, yes one is also applying all kinds of quantitative methods one can to get some idea of what the situation is like. Real life training indeed :-D It’s always a mix of logic and intuition+speculation, right?!

I am not comlpaining. Things have their pluses and minuses. This is certainly more democratic. (And number matters here!) And things have their own philosophies too. I am only amused. :-)

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U.P. tour cur short

Posted by Jaya on March 8, 2005

I am back after spending two days at IITK. Was planning on almost a “U.P. tour by visiting a relative and a friend too, but that was cut-short. The friend’s place is not so close as she initially claimed and the complications of the journey did not leave me with much enthusiasm to take all the trouble for being there for one day. And my relatives are out of station. So, I am back but the two days at IITK have given me enough topic to write and/or blog on. It was quite a stimulating stay with several discussions which I would do better by listing here.

  • With two people from Meander Team on the situation of Gymkhana there
  • With Priya and Srivani on ‘how to lead a meaningful life’ and all (do not expect a profound conclusion here, but at least we thought!)
  • With Priya and TVP (Dr. T. V. Prabhakar) on digitization and expansion of library
  • With Dr. Sanghi on Gymkhana and the ever beloved topic ‘Dr. Dhandhe’.
  • With Dr. Rahul Varman on Education System particularly in the context of university system vs. specific institutes like IITs and IIMs.
  • With Dr. Rohit Varman on MBA education of India and abroad (particularly with reference to the focus on ‘job’) and also on MBA vs. Ph. D. in the arena of Management

So be there people. There is a lot coming up :-D

Sad part is that with the remaining batchmates graduating in May, this might be my last visit to IITK in short-term. Going there seems equivalent to going back to my roots. Somehow, I feel more like myself, so much at home – yes, just like it was earlier. And if two days can give so much of stimulation, can you imagine what I miss here ever day? (That might be a bit of exaggeration, but not too much really!)

And well, before I end this one, I just have to tell you this story. It is flattering. But I do not mind being flattered once in a while. And even though the modesty is crying its heart out at my decision to write it here, the incident itself made me laugh my heart out!

I was in Dr. Sanghi’s office, when the newly elected president of Students’ Gymkhana came in to meet him.

Dr. Sanghi (pointing towards me): Do you know her?
President (hesistatingly): No…
Dr. Sanghi: If you do not know her, you have no right to be the president here!

:-D

Poor guy – he did look perplexed. But was relaxed when he heard my name. He did know me by name, but not by face. Saved his presidency :p

Another exclamations from Dr. Sanghi, “You don’t have student’s senate there. Phir tumhara man kaise lagta hoga? What about newsgroups?”

:) )

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The mobility

Posted by Jaya on March 1, 2005

I have recently come to appreciate, how much of mobility possession of a simple thing like a bicycle gave at IITK. Keeping a bicycle is not really a trend here. Some people have it, but those are exceptions. And others, if they keep vehicle, they will get a motor-bike. A bicycle is not needed as such, because campus is so compact. Particulary from our hostel every place you need to go is so near. Karishma had commented at distance of the academic block from our hostel as being probably less than the distance between GH Main Gate and G-wing (in which we lived) there! And she was right, I guess.

But sometimes I really miss that bicycle. It could not have given me so much of mobility so as to go to the city, but at least simply going around the campus (without needing a company) would have been possible. Walking alone, you give the look of a wandering soul to the people. (I sometimes wonder why has ‘company’ become such a ‘must have’ in our society, but on that later!) On cycle it’s not that bad. Further, you can certainly venture a few kilometers beyond the campus to see whatever is there around it. I can not forget that ‘adventurous’ (yeah – almost so) cycle trip to Panki from IITK. Wonder if any of my companions are reading this post. Too bad we lost all the photographs :( And that unforgettable one to Bithoor. (That was a long one, I must say!)

But all this is not to happen. I don’t think I am going to get my parents to buy a bicycle for one year because I want to go around the campus! And I am to remain as little mobile as I am for another year.

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That vs. This

Posted by Jaya on February 8, 2005

IITK

“Jaya, is there something you are not involved in?”

IIML

“Jaya, you are never to be seen around except in classes!!”

IITK

“Ask Jaya – She reads all the mails on coming on all the lists all@iitk, students@iitk”

IIML

“Jaya, you didn’t sign the list put up on the mess notice-board for veg or non-veg – kabhie-kabhie ye mails bhee padh liya karo!”

IITK

“Jaya Jha and Acads – GRIN”

IIML

“So, topper…”

IITK

Election time – “Whom have you nominated Jaya?”

IIML

Election time – “Jaya, whom are you voting for?” (Me: “Umm… who all are standing?”)

IITK

“Jaya, can you tell me…” (Me – scolding the person: “Why do you not read notice-boards?”)

IIML

“Jaya you did not come to see your XYZ paper. They had put up the notice.” (Me: “When have I last seen the notice-board?”)

IITK

A Meeting – “Jaya! Let others speak”

IIML

Batch Meeting (or something like that) – Jaya Jha sleeping…

I can’t tell you what kind of an experience it is to have been on the both sides of the line. At one point of time in life you feel so much a part of the system, at the other point of time you are exactly the opposite. You are living like those whom you had never understood before. Yes, I had never understood how can people say no to an activity without even exploring the various aspects of it. Now, I am doing it myself. I did not regret that time. I do not regret this time either. (People who have seen me at IITK would have problems believing how I live here. Those who have seen me at IIML can never imagine how I lived at IITK! I wonder what those think who have seen me at both the places :D )

Why this change? I do think I have some explanations. But those might not be very objective at this point of time. In future, when I am in a position to look back and compare with less bias, I should be able to come up with some reasons. For now, all I can say is – it’s a good experience to have lived both kinds of lives myself.

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